Problems women face in the Martial arts

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  • Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

    Thu, February 7, 2008 - 8:25 AM
    Those are fallacies and assumptions, not actual problems like:

    Having your partner kneel on your boob getting pinned
    hot flashes on the mat
    tampax,pad or both?
    cramps
    broken nails (a real danger when you think about it)

    OK, its still way to early to be clever, but really, is any of that news to us?
    • Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

      Thu, February 7, 2008 - 8:44 AM
      Not particularly, but they may well be doubts that plague those who are considering beginning martial arts but are held back by thoughts like these.
      • Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

        Thu, February 7, 2008 - 9:00 AM
        Or their moms are. Our youngest dojo member is 13 and her mom would rather have her knocking herself out in Spin classes. Personally I think its a Custody issue more than anything.
        • Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

          Thu, February 7, 2008 - 7:03 PM
          I still hear people say or think this.

          and the boob thing
          got kicked there a few times
          • Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

            Sat, February 23, 2008 - 6:10 PM
            Well- those rae kinda general stereotypes... and I can see how people Might think those things-
            but really , I guess I must be kinda insulated. Some of those things just have never come up.
            Honest, Qatana hit things that affect (and effect) me more-
            Get a boob stepped on?. umm yeah. OW!.. and what can ya say about that? "Umm.. please try not to step on my cleavage even tho its kinda where you need to place your foot/knee/whatever"... no.. just try not to wince too hard. They feel as bad as YOU do when you occassionally catch one in teh groin doing some technique.At least my guys do.

            Today I went thru black belt test for some others testing , an da coupel of u swere yapping in teh dressing room (I wonder what the guys think?.. its right next to thiers an dthe ceilings are open.. heheh).. about " Omigosh!, guys are tough about getting hit.. but I wanna see one actually get out there having cramps that would down a moose!"

            I want men to have to wonder just how many layers of "protection" (and I dont mean the sparring kind) one has to wear in order to not have any accidents while being thrown about and kicking! HA!

            Ok, and has anyone else teared up on teh mat 'cuas e thier hormones were wack?

            Real , every day kinda questions. Thanks Qatana! :D
            • Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

              Sun, February 24, 2008 - 7:11 AM
              sometimes I don't want to go to class when I feel crappy and crampy
              but I make myself go
              and I am always sooooooo glad I did
              I feel better
              what sucks
              is the high from class disappears after a couple of hours
              and I feel crappy again
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                Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

                Sun, February 24, 2008 - 9:25 AM
                I've never had ANY of those reactions. People are always respectful and fascinated. My company's founder & CEO holds a black belt he earned directly from Chuck Norris way back when both were much younger. The CEO and I joke about which of us can take the other often. My husband in particular is thrilled I can (probably, comment mine) take care of myself and delighted I have an outlet for what my Dad refers to as "floating hostilities".
                To be honest, I don't always train when I'm feeling crampy and crappy.
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                  Sun, February 24, 2008 - 2:30 PM
                  Erika- Im sorry hun- Im glad you go train , but think of it this way!.. Mabye the crampy -ouchy -grumpies would be SO much worst ifyou didnt go??
                  I did BB yesterday, knowing I would pay teh price- I wa ssicker last night and most of todayt thanm I had been for 2 days. Oh well!

                  Lynn- Cool!.. One of my Masters trained with Chuck Norris (for some time, tho I have never had teh guts to ask him if his karate BB was From him... I try to be real quiet when he' s relaying the rare story). I think that if your CEO can relate to you like that, its gotta be a positive thing! Must be hard not to use as a salary negotiation tool! " Dude... is it worth me taking you down in front of teh board? 'Cuase you know I can.." LOL Just klidding!
                  My hubby is not only glad I can take care of myself, but him also!
                  I wonder how many of us really dont see much in teh way of those stereotypes?

                  herrrrm.... "floating hostilities"?... I get 'floaters' in my eyesight once in a while, they never go after me ,however.. even eyelashes that *seem* alil aggressive- do you think teh 'floaters ' put them up to it? Wow, I always get something to ponder on in here....

                  ::walking away mumbling::
                  Nin
                  Nin
  • Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

    Sun, February 24, 2008 - 3:25 PM
    I admit it, I'm really likely to just beg off if the crimson tide rises too high. Who the heck wants to do kicking drills constantly wondering where the pad has shifted to now? And it never seems to fail, if I'm feeling really icky and I decide to suck it up and go anyway, that's going to be the night when all the 20 something guys show up and Sifu decides that we need a "challenge". Ugh.

    The only other problem I've had was with a specific guy. Full of testosterone and bossy as hell. At our dojo, the underlying goal is always spiritual/personal development and he was there mostly to kick ass. Very strong and kind of sloppy. I *mostly* didn't have any conflict with him since I was of a higher rank, but his need to be alpha male was so strong all I could do was shake my head and laugh. After a while, I deliberately started wearing my hair down (it goes most of the way down my back) and only had a sports bra under my gi. The other guys never batted an eye, but he was Muslim and was forbidden to touch my hair. On the plus side, I found out how cool it is to drill with hair flying everywhere. I felt like a ferocious wild women.
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      Sun, February 24, 2008 - 10:01 PM
      "On the plus side, I found out how cool it is to drill with hair flying everywhere. I felt like a ferocious wild women. "

      I have thick, curly hair, so I don't always wear a hair tie. I just braid it, and it usually stays in a braid. The exception is if we're doing any kind of spinning moves. I had my teacher chuckling about my hair a couple of weeks ago when we were working on spinning backfists, and my braid came undone. He made some comment about my flying hair. I rebraided and continued.
      • Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

        Mon, February 25, 2008 - 5:44 AM
        I sometimes do
        but most of the time I have two braids
        cause I end up pulling some of it doing certain moves
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          Mon, February 25, 2008 - 8:13 AM
          I like doing the two braids, it helps to keep my neck cool during the nasty hot humid summer. But, I sometimes have a problem doing ground work, the braids always end up pinning my head down. My dojo brother Shawn has hair almost to his ass. He always ties it back with multiple bands then tucks it in the back of his top. I started following his example and it worked really well, but I hate doing it in the summer.

          One day I was chatting with some of the short haired folks, and they asked me how I could possibly train with my hair flying all over the place. Just when I started to think that maybe I was being a little too informal about it, Sifu piped up from out of nowhere and said "I think her hair is real pretty!". I must have turned every shade of red imaginable. I still chuckle at myself when I think about it.
          • Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

            Mon, February 25, 2008 - 8:18 AM
            Part of the pinning process in my dojo is "moving the ponytail out of the way", so fortunately my hair doesn't get the same treatment my boobs get.I've also had to demo how to do certain throws using only my ponytail.
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              Mon, February 25, 2008 - 3:44 PM
              That's funny. Part of the training process in my dojang is teaching the newbies how to USE my braid to their advantages.

              "Grab my hair."
              "What?"
              "Get a good hold of it and pull. It's there. Use it."
              • Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

                Tue, February 26, 2008 - 12:44 PM
                My hair also gets braided. At least then it only reaches to teh middle of back. I couldnt let it go free.. I wouldnt have any left!! Even when its braided it gets stepped on , and pulled on. I dont complain. just today one of my buds sai d" Sorry about teh hair!" an dI todl him... 'It'll grow back- someday' lol
                Somehow.. although Im a D .. my boobs dont get stepped on that often. Ok, so mabye Im not perky enough to get em stepped on?!? LOL

                We make sure that if the hair is there, it gets used, just liek Diane tells her peeps. Then again, If your all wound up in my hair, its gunan be Real hard for you to let go ::evil grin::

                On days (liek the BB test that I went thru Sat) when its my period- I have to deal with an overnight sized pad and a tampon(which I hate), for insurance reasons. It also helps that we wear black.

                Omigosh!> I so LOVE that " he isnt allowed to touch my hair" as a Muslim. Im amazed, really, that he's even allowed to train with you. What a delightful and creative way to help deal with his problem! And what a thoughtful way for your Sifu to defuse what might have been an embarrasing thing to deal with. YAy you!


                Nin!!

                • Re: Problems women face in the Martial arts

                  Tue, February 26, 2008 - 1:10 PM
                  <blush> Thanks! That was the only time Sifu has ever commented on anybody's person (except his daughters, who he absolutely dotes on). "H" and I ended up having a few fairly long friendly talks, after which I realized that he wasn't going to change anytime soon. As much as I'm glad that he started training more with the strong young thangs, it was really interesting and sort of sad to watch him self destruct. People who end up coming to our dojo for reasons other then personal/spiritual development tend to lose interest and stop coming. He stayed around much longer then I thought he would (better part of two years) and I watched as he doggedly tried to get his BB. He's the only one that I've ever known to take the test and not get the belt. A good lesson to me in arrogance and resisting the temptation to only work on the things that I'm already good at. Ah well, I hope he's found some other place to train that better suits his goals.

                  I've only had boobstep done on me by accident, but DAMN! I just try to wear the tightest sports bra that I can find. The other day I was bra shopping and saw some sports bras that had underwires. All I could think of was how much they would hurt, and why on earth would I want to make them bigger when I'm working out?? I'm certainly not above making the best use of my assets, but good lord on a bicycle! Leave the underwires for other kinds of training.

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